ÄATE: 12-30-93 (01:38) ÎUMBER: 12527 OF 12631 (ÒEFER# ÎÏÎÅ) ÔO: ÁÌÌÆROM: ÍÁÒËÏ.ÍÁËÅÌÁ@ÈÅÌÓÉÎËÉ.ÆÉÓUBJ: Ã65 ÆÁÑ ÐATH: PORTNOY!NEWS2.UUNET.CA!SPOOL.MU.EDU!HOWLAND.RESTON.ANS.NETEUROPA.ENG.GTEFSD.COM!UUNET!ÅÕ.NET!NEWS.FUNET.FI!KLAAVA!KLAAVA!ÍARKO.ÍAKELAÆROM: ÍARKO.ÍAKELA@ÈELSINKI.ÆÉ (=?ÉÓÏ-8859-1?Ñ?ÍARKO_Í=Å4KEL=Å4?=)ÎEWSGROUPS: COMP.SYS.CBMÓUBJECT: Ã65 ÆÁÑÄATE: 27 ÄEC 1993 02:39:05 +0200ÏRGANIZATION: ÕNIVERSITY OF ÈELSINKI, ÆINLAND.ÌINES: 310ÄISTRIBUTION: WORLDÍESSAGE-ÉÄ: <ÍÁÒËÏ.ÍÁËÅÌÁ.93ÄEC27023906@PLOOTU.ÈELSINKI.ÆÉ>ÎÎÔÐ-ÐOSTING-ÈOST: PLOOTU.HELSINKI.FIÍIME-ÖERSION: 1.0ÃONTENT-ÔYPE: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ÉÓÏ-8859-1ÃONTENT-ÔRANSFER-ÅNCODING: 8BIT ÈERE'S THE ÆÁÑ FILE É PROMISED. ÔHE Ã65 TECHNICAL DETAIL POSTING BYÆRED ÂOWEN WAS ARCHIVED ON MY ÖÁØ/ÖÍÓ ACCOUNT, WHICH É DON'T USE MUCHTHESE DAYS. ÆORTUNATELY É REMEMBERED TO CHECK IT. (ÎODE 16/76 MIN LEFT), (È)ELP,(ÃÒ)MORE,(Î)O ÍORE? ÔHIS FILE CAN BE RETRIEVED VIA ANONYMOUS ÆÔÐ FROM FTP.FUNET.FI. ÔHEFILENAME FOR THE ÇÎÕ ZIPPED VERSION IS /PUB/CBM/FAQ/C65-FAQ.1.0.GZ, THEUNCOMPRESSED VERSION IS /PUB/CBM/FAQ/C65-FAQ.1.0. ÓO, HERE IT GOES: ÃOMMODORE 65 ÆREQUENTLY ÁSKED ÑUESTIONS - ÖERSION 1.0 ÁROUND THE YEAR 1990 OR 1991, ÃOMMODORE ÂUSINESS ÍACHINES WAS PLANNINGTO INTRODUCE A SUCCESSOR FOR THE FAMOUS ÃOMMODORE 64, THE ÃOMMODORE65. ÔHE PROJECT WAS CANNED, MAINLY BECAUSE OF HUGE AMOUNTS OFSOFTWARE THAT PUSHED THE Ã64'S VIDEO CHIP TO ITS LIMIT, AND DID NOT WORKAT ALL WITH THE NEW Ã65'S VIDEO CONTROLLER, ÃÓÇ 4567. ÁLSO, THE MACHINEMIGHT HAVE BEEN TOO EXPENSIVE TO INTEREST THE BIG AUDIENCE. ÉN THIS FILE THERE ARE A FEW ARTICLES CAPTURED FROM THE NEWSGROUPCOMP.SYS.CBM AND FROM SOME OTHER SOURCES. É HOPE THAT THEY WILLSATURATE YOUR NEED OF INFORMATION. (ÎODE 16/76 MIN LEFT), (È)ELP,(ÃÒ)MORE,(Î)O ÍORE? ÔHIS FILE WAS PUT UP BY ÍARKO ÍäKELä <ÍARKO.ÍAKELA@ÈELSINKI.ÆÉ>.É DO NOT HAVE A Ã65, SO PLEASE DIRECT YOUR INQUIRIES TO THE COMP.SYS.CBMNEWSGROUP. ----------ÆROM: FRED@CBMVAX.CBM.COMMODORE.COM (ÆRED ÂOWEN)ÎEWSGROUPS: COMP.SYS.CBMÓUBJECT: ÒE: ×HAT'S A Ã-65???ÍESSAGE-ÉÄ: <ÃÄÉ6U2.2UZ@CBMVAX.CBM.COMMODORE.COM>ÄATE: 17 ÓEP 93 14:56:25 ÇÍÔÒEFERENCES: <1993ÓEP14.212254.1717@MNEMOSYNE.CS.DU.EDU>ÒEPLY-ÔO: FRED@CBMVAX.CBM.COMMODORE.COM (ÆRED ÂOWEN)ÏRGANIZATION: ÃOMMODORE, ×EST ÃHESTER, ÐÁÌINES: 61 >ÔO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, THE Ã65 WAS NEVER PUT INTO PRODUCTION. É>VISITED THE PERSON LAST WEEK WHO ACTUALLY WROTE THE ÄÏÓ OPERATING SYSTEM>FOR IT, AND SAW A PROTOTYPE OF IT. ÁCCORDING TO HIM, ÍR, ÇOULD "PULLED(ÎODE 16/76 MIN LEFT), (È)ELP,(ÃÒ)MORE,(Î)O ÍORE? >THE PLUG" ON THE SYSTEM AMONTH BEFORE ITS' COMPLETION DATE. ÔHE ÂRITOISH>MAGS HAD SOME COVERAGE OF IT IN PREVIEWS ABOUT A YEAR-YEAR AND A HALF AGO,>BUT THAT WAS THE END OF IT. ÔOO BAD, CAUSE IT WAS A DECENT LITTLE>CRITTER, WITH A BUILT-IN 3.5" DRIVE, AND A LOT MORE FEATURES AND MEMORY>AND SUCH THAN THE Ã64. ÁPPARENTLY ÇRAPEVINE PICKED UP SOME Ã65'S DURING ÃOMMODORE'S LIQUIDATIONOF ITS WAREHOUSE/STORAGE AREAS A COUPLE MONTHS AGO. ×HAT IS A Ã65? Á PRODUCT THAT ALMOST MADE IT OUT THE DOOR. ×HAT YOU'RESEEING ARE "ALPHA" PILOT-PRODUCTION UNITS. ÔHERE WERE ONLY SOMETHINGLIKE 50 UNITS MADE, AND A DOZEN OR MORE OF THESE WERE DISTRIBUTED AROUNDENGINEERING, SYSTEM DEVELOPERS, ETC. ÏBVIOUSLY, THEY WERE NEVER MEANTTO BE SOLD TO THE PUBLIC, BUT... ÃÐÕ ÃÓÇ65ÃÅ02, RUNNING AT 3.54ÍÈZ ÒÁÍ 128Ë, EXPANSION TO 8Í ÒÏÍ 128Ë, INCLUDING Ã65 MODE (V10.0), Ã64 (V2.2) MODE, & ÄÏÓ ÖIDEO ÃÓÇ4567 "ÖÉÃ-ÉÉÉ" ANALOG ÒÇ WITH COMPOSITE SYNC ON EACH PRIMARY, SEPARATE ACTIVE-HIGH DIGITAL SYNC, COMPOSITE CHROA/LUMA, DIGITAL FGND/BGND CONTROL (GENLOCK) ALL ORIGINAL Ã64 VIDEO MODES (40X25 TEXT, 320X200 BITMAP) NEW MODES (80X25 TEXT, WITH BLINK, BOLD, UNDERLINE ATTRIBUTES) TRUE BITPLANE GRAPHICS (ÖÇÁ RESOLUTION): 320, 640, 1280 HORZ. PIXELS IN 8, 4, OR 2 PLANES 200, 400 VERT. PIXELS, NON-INTERLACED & INTERLACED ÄÁÔ "DISPLAY ADDRESS TRANSLATOR" TO ACCESS DISPLAY MEMORY STANDARD 16-COLOR Ã64 PALETTE PROGRAMMABLE 256-COLOR PALETTE WITH 16 INTENSITY LEVELS PER PRIMARY COLOR. ÁUDIO ÓTEREO ÓÉÄ CHIPS ËEYBD 77 KEYS, INCLUDING SEPARATE CURSOR KEYS, ÁÌÔ, ÅÓÃ, ETC. ÄISK ÂUILT-IN 3.5" DOUBLE-SIDED, 1Í ÍÆÍ (1581 FORMAT) CUSTOM 4191 CONTROLLER WITH 512 BYTE BUFFER AND PARALLEL BUS EXTERNAL MINI-ÄÉÎ FOR ONE Á1011-TYPE EXPANSION DRIVE. ACCEPTS ÃÂÍ SERIAL DRIVES (1541,1571,1581), FAST/SLOW/BURST É/Ï ÂUILT-IN ÄÍÁ/BLITTER ÂUILT-IN 6511-TYPE ÕÁÒÔ, SUPPORTS ÍÉÄÉ DATA RATE. ÁLL Ã64 PORTS: PARALLEL, EXPANSION, ETC. NEW ÒÁÍ EXPANSION PORT, ACCESSIBLE BY ÄÍÁ AND VIDEO CHIPS. É GUESS THAT'S ENOUGH FOR NOW. ÂUT BE WARNED- THESE BOARDS ARE VERY OUTOF DATE- THE ÒÏÍS, ÐÌÁ'S, ETC. ARE PRE-PRE-PREÁÌÐÈÁ, THERE ARE ABSOLUTELYÎÏ SPARE PARTS (SO IF IT BREAKS, THAT'S IT!), ALL SYSTEMS ARE ÐÁÌ (BUTTHEY DISPLAY OKAY ON REGULAR 1084-TYPE MONITORS IN ANALOG MODE). ÏH, AND THERE AREN'T ANY MANUALS. É'M SURPRISED THAT ÇRAPEVINE CAN SELL THEM AS "NEW" EQUIPMENT. ÂUYER BEWARE, AND ALL THAT. ÁLL THINGS CONSIDERED, NOT A BAD MACHINE, THOUGH. É STILL USE MINE :-)----ÆRED ÂOWEN UUCP: ...!RUTGERS!CBMVAX!FRED DOMAIN: FRED@CBMVAX.CBM.COMMODORE.COM TELE: 215 431-9100 ÃOMMODORE ÅLECTRONICS, ÌTD., 1200 ×ILSON ÄRIVE, ×EST ÃHESTER, ÐÁ, 19380 ------------ÍESSAGE 60 ÔHU ÄEC 23, 1993Ò.ÄÁÙ AT 20:08 ÅÓÔ É HAVE MY C65! ÇOT IT TODAY ABOUT 3 HOURS AGO. É LOOKED AT HOW THE POWER PLUGHOOKS UP AND IT'S THE SAME AS THE 1581! ÏNLY IT NEEDS 2.2 AMPS FOR +5 VOLTSAND .5 AMPS FOR THE 12 VOLTS. É JUST PLUGED IN MY POWER SUPPLY FROM MY 1581THAT WILL ALL SO POWER 3 OTHER DRIVES. ÉT CAME UP THE 1ST TIME ON MY 1084MONITOR. ÔHE 9 PIN PLUG PLUGS RIGHT IN AND THE Õ SHAPED DIN PLUGS RIGHT IN.ÏNLY BLACK AND WIGHT IN 40 MODE BUT COLOR IN 80 MODE. LOOKS LIKE A 128 USING40 OR 80 IN THE 80 MODE. ÔHE POWER PUPPLY THAT COMES WITH IT DOES NOT HAVE ANYPLUG ON THE END FOR THE POWER TO THE WALL. ÉNPUT SAYS 240ÖÁà 0.17Á. ÙOU CANHOLD DOWN THE Ã= KEY TO BE IN 64 MODE. ÓTEREO PLAYER WILL LOAD AND WORK BUTDOES NOT SEE THE 2ND 8580 SID CHIP. ÔHERE IS 2 OF THEM IN THE C65. ÍY GUESS ISTHE 2ND ONE IS ADDRESSED AT $D480. É WILL HAVE TO CHECK IT OUT. ÔHE BILT INDRIVE IS A 81 SAYS 73,COPYRIGHT CBM CBDOS V1.0,00,00 ÔHE ONE IN MY Ã65 DOESNOT WORK TOO GOOD. É HAVE TO FIGGER OUT HOW TO MAKE IT A NOTHER DEVICE #. ÙOUCAN PLUG IN A Ã= MODEM AND THE CARTRIDGE PORT WILL NOT FIT C64 OR 128CARTRIDGES. É THINK IT WOULD WITH A ADAPTER. ÔHE PINS ARE CLOSER TOGETHER JUSTA LITTLE. IN THE C65 MODE YOU CAN TO IN A MONITER IT'S LIKE THE 128. ÙOU CANEVEN SAY GO64 AND IT ASK ARE YOU SURE? ÉT GOES THERE RIGHT AWAY. ÔHE VIDEO ISVERY GOOD. ÉT JUST HAS A BORDER ON THE TOP AND BUTTOM ABOUT 1 INCH. EACH ANDTHE SIDES ARE A LITTLE SHOWING. ÓO THAT THE SCREEN IS A LITTLE WIDER. ×ELL ANYONE CAN GET THIS! ÊUST GET THE ÈÄ POWER PUPPLY FROM ÃÍÄ. ÂUT THIS COST É THINK$50. ÉT SHOULD PLUG RIGHT IN TO THE Ã65! É GOT MINE FROM A NOTHER PLACE ANDHAD TO PUT A CASE ON IT BUT ONLY COST ME ABOUT $30. ÈAS MORE AMPS THEN THE ÃÍÄONE TOO. ×ELL É WILL HAVE TO FIGGER THIS ONE HOW IT WORKS MORE BUT LOOKS LIKEIT'S JUST A NOTHER 128 WITH A BILT IN 1581. ÔHE INSIDE ON THE BOARD SAID FORSOME CHIP NAMES: ÄÍÁÇÉÃ, ÖÉÃÔÏÒ, ÂÉÌÌ, AND ÅÌÍÅÒ. ÉT ALL SO HAS THIS:ÌÁÓÓÁ/ÇÁÒÄÅÉ/ÎÉÎÅÓÐÃÂ/ÁÎÄÒÁÄÅ/ÊÐ/ÔÌ/ÈÍ/ÔÃ/Ã×/ÆÉÓÈ/ÈÄ/ÇÔ/ÄÆ/ÂÆ/ÅÔà AND MINESAYS Ã64 ÄØ ÒÅÖ 2 COMMODORE ELECTRONICS LTD COPYRIGHT (C) 191990 ALL RIGHTSRESERVED. ×ELL É GUESS THAT'S ALL É CAN SAY ABOUT IT. ÉT JUST TOOK THEM LONGTO GET IT TO ME. É WILL HAVE TO CLEAN SOME OF THE DUST OFF THE KEYBOARD TOO. ------------ÆROM: RALPHEY@KITTYHAWK.AERO.RMIT.ÏÚ.ÁÕ (ÒUSSELL ÁLPHEY)(ÎODE 16/76 MIN LEFT), (È)ELP,(ÃÒ)MORE,()O ÍOE? ÎEWSGROUPS: COMP.SYS.CBMÓUBJECT: É HAVE A Ã65!!! :)))))))))))ÄATE: 1 ÄEC 1993 06:49:15 ÇÍÔÏRGANIZATION: ÒOYAL ÍELBOURNE ÉNSTITUTE OF ÔECHNOLOGY, ÍELBOURNE, ÁUSTRALIA.ÌINES: 90ÍESSAGE-ÉÄ: <2DHEPB$1F0@AGGEDOR.RMIT.ÅÄÕ.ÁÕ>ÎÎÔÐ-ÐOSTING-ÈOST: KITTYHAWK.AERO.RMIT.OZ.AU ×ITH TREMBLING HANDS É OPENED THE LARGE BOX FROM ÔHE ÇRAPEVINE ÇROUP.ÍY WIFE GRABBED THE INVOICE AND SAID, "×HAT'S A Ã65 WITH BUILT-IN DISKDRIVE?". ÔHIS IS WHAT É HOPED TO FIND OUT! "ÔA-DA!" Á BOX FULL OF FOAM BEADS. ÄIG, DIG, WHAT'S THIS? ÓOMETHINGSOLID... ÁND IN THE BOX WAS - 1 Ä.Ó.Ç. PACKET, 1 PIECE CARBON PAPER - CRUMPLED,1 LATEX GLOVE - GREY,1 PACKET CONTAINING A 75 ÏHM CO-AX CABLE WITH IDENTICAL ENDS (THE SORTTHAT PLUG INTO A Ã64) AND A ÔÖ-COMPUTER SWITCH BOX,1 BEIGE POWER SUPPLY, WITH THE FAMILIAR Ã= ON TOP, A 4 PIN ROUNDCONNECTER AT ONE END AND A FLAT 2 PIN WALL PLUG WITH ROUND PINS. ÔHEUNDERSIDE HAS "ÆÏÒ Ã65 ÏÎÌÙ ÐÏ×ÅÒ ÓÕÐÐÌÙ". ÔHE WORD Ã65 IS ON A STICKER. ÏH, THERE WAS ONE OTHER THING IN THE BOX :))))))))))))))))))))) Á COMPUTER. ÎORMAL Ã= BEIGE COLO(U)R. ËEY LETTERING LIKE THAT ON A Ã128.ÃOMPUTER IS ABOUT 18" BY 8", AND LIKE A FLAT 128, BUT NO SEPARATEKEYPAD (THERE'S A 3.5" DISK DRIVE THERE INSTEAD :). ÔHE DRIVE POINTSFORWARD, WITH THE EJECT BUTTON ON THE LEADING EDGE OF THE KEYBOARD. ËEY LAYOUT IS AS FOLLOWS. LIGHT> ÒUN ÃAPS ÎO Æ1 Æ3 Æ5 Æ7 Æ9 Æ11 Æ13 ÈELPÓTOP ÅSC ÁLT ÌOCK ÓCROLL Æ2 Æ4 Æ6 Æ8 Æ10 Æ12 Æ14 <- 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 + - # ÃLR ÉNST ÔAB Q W E R T Y U I O P @ * ^ ÒESTORE ÃTRL Ó/ÌOCK A S D F G H J K L : ; = RETURN Ã= ÓHIFT Z X C V B N M < > / ÓHIFT ^ ...........SPACE............... < V > ÎOTE THAT # IS THE ÅNGLISH POUND SYMBOL. ÁLSO, THERE'S A SPOT WHERE A METAL PLAQUE COULD GO, LIKE ON THE 64S. ÏKAY, NOW FOR A TOUR AROUND THE COMPUTER. ÌEFT SIDE HAS A RESET BUTTON, ÃONT PORT 1 AND 2 (JOYSTICK PORTS), THEPOWER SWITCH AND POWER INLET. ÒIGHT SIDE IS BLANK. ÂACK HAS, (FROM LEFT AS YOU LOOK AT IT) A ROUND HOLE LABELLED DISKDRIVE (BUT NOTHING THERE), A VIDEO PORT (LIKE 128'S), A SWITCH (ORSCREW) LABELLED "Ì È", AN ÒÆ PORT, AN ÒÇ VIDEO PORT, A ÓTEREO PORTWITH Ò & Ì PORTS, A ÕSER PORT, A ÃÂÍ SERIAL PORT, AND FINALLY ANEXPANSION PORT. ÕNDERNEATH THERE'S A FLAP WHICH CONCEALS WHAT APPEARS TO BE A MINITURECENTRONICS PORT, AND THE MANUFACTURER'S LABEL. ÉT READS - Ã= COMMODOREÍODEL Ã65ÐOWER 5VÄà @ 2.2Á 12VÄà @ 5ÁÓÅÒÉÁÌ ÎÏ. 000062 :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))ÆÃà ÉÄ ÎÏ. MADE IN HONG KONGÆUNKENSTORT N.ÄÂÐ-ÖTG 1046/84 ÓO THERE YOU HAVE IT, A REAL? Ã65. (ÔHE :)))) ABOVE IS MY EDITORIALCOMMENT!) ÕNFORTUNATELY É CAN'T TELL YOU ANYTHING ABOUT ITS OPERATION YET,BECAUSE É HAVEN'T FIRED IT UP YET (MAINLY DUE TO THE INCORRECT PLUG ONTHE POWER SUPPLY). ÂUT REST ASSURED É'LL REPORT AS SOON AS É DO! :) ÒALPHEY. --+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+(ÎODE 16/76 MIN LEFT), (È)ELP,(ÃÒ)MORE,(Î)O ÍORE? | ÙOU ARE NOW THE PROUD RECIPIENT OF A GENUINE ÒALPHEY .SIG! || ÁCCEPT NO IMITATIONS. RALPHEY@KITTYHAWK.AERO.RMIT.OZ.AU|+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------ÆROM: GPAGE@NYX.CS.DU.EDU (GEORGE PAGE)ÎEWSGROUPS: COMP.SYS.CBMÓUBJECT: ÒE: ÄOES ANYONE KNOW??ÍESSAGE-ÉÄ: <1993ÎOV21.153758.29278@MNEMOSYNE.CS.DU.EDU>ÄATE: 21 ÎOV 93 15:37:58 ÇÍÔÒEFERENCES: <2CELDU$237@PDQ.COE.MONTANA.EDU> <931120.57786.ÌÍÃÃÌÕÒÅ@DELPHÓENDER: USENET@MNEMOSYNE.CS.DU.EDU (NETNEWS ADMIN ACCOUNT)ÏRGANIZATION: ÎYX, ÐUBLIC ÁCCESS ÕNIX AT Õ. OF ÄENVER ÍATH/ÃÓ DEPT.ÌINES: 17Ø-ÄISCLAIMER: ÎYX IS A PUBLIC ACCESS ÕNIX SYSTEM RUN BY THE ÕNIVERSITY OF ÄENVER FOR THE ÄENVER COMMUNITY. ÔHE ÕNIVERSITY HAS NEITHER CONTROL OVER NOR RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE OPINIONS OF USERS. ×ELL, SINCE YOU POSTED SOME PRETTY INTERESTING HISTORICAL "TRIVIA", HERE'SA THUMBNAIL DESCRIPTION OF THE Ã65 FROM A PROTOTYPE É SAW LAST ÓEPTEMBER:ÃASE MORE OR LESS THE COLOR OF A 64Ã, DRIVE EMBEDDED OFF TO THE RIGHTWHERE THE 128'S NUMERIC KEYPAD IS, SLOT SLIGHTLY RAISED, WIDE EJECT BUTTONRECESSED IN THE VERY FRONT EDGE. ÔOP ROW KEYS ARE (L TO R) ÒUN/ÓTOP, ÅÓÃ,ÁÌÔ, ÃÁÐÓ ÌÏÃË, ÎO ÓCROLL, THEN 7 Æ-KEYS AND A ÈELP. ÎEXT ROW IS SAME AS AÃ64 TOP ROW (NUMBERS,ETC). ÔHRID ROW IS THE SAME AS THE Ñ×ÅÒÔÙ ROW ON A64/128, EXCEPT THAT A ÔÁ IS FIRST TO THE LEFT. ÔHE NEXT ROW STARTS WITHÃÔÌ, AND THEN IS STANDARD. ÂOTTOM ROW IS STANDARD, EXCEPT CURSOR KEYS ARESIMILAR TO A ÐLUS/4'S. ÂY "STANDAR", É MEAN 64/128 LAYOUT. ÂACK ANDSIDES, É'M NOT REALLY SURE-USES A MINI ÄÉÎ FOR AN EXT DRIVE, SEEMS TO HAVEA PAIR OF RED/WHITE ÒÃÁ JACKS (FOR STEREO OUTPUT?), 9PIN VID OUTPUT(?),LONG USER AND EXPANSION PORTS(?). ÏNE OR TWO OTHER ROUND PORTS ON THEBACK. ÐOWER-IN SOCKET, SWITCH AND 2 JOYSTICK PORTS TOWARDS REAR OF LEFTSIDE.(?) (WORKING FROM NOT-TO-FINELY-DETAILED SNAPSHOTS). ÇENERALSTYLING LIKE A 128 OR 64Ã. ------------ÆROM: GPAGE@NYX10.CS.DU.EDU (GEORGE PAGE) ÓUBJECT: Á BIT MORE Ã65 FOLLOWUP.ÍESSAGE-ÉÄ: <1993ÄEC25.183014.1280@MNEMOSYNE.CS.DU.EDU>Ø-ÄISCLAIMER: ÎYX IS A PUBLIC ACCESS ÕNIX SYSTEM RUN BY THE ÕNIVERSITY OF ÄENVER FOR THE ÄENVER COMMUNITY. ÔHE ÕNIVERSITY HAS NEITHER CONTROL OVER NOR RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE OPINIONS OF USERS.ÓENDER: USENET@MNEMOSYNE.CS.DU.EDU (NETNEWS ADMIN ACCOUNT)ÏRGANIZATION: ÎYX, ÐUBLIC ÁCCESS ÕNIX AT Õ. OF ÄENVER ÍATH/ÃÓ DEPT.ÄATE: ÓAT, 25 ÄEC 93 18:30:14 ÇÍÔÌINES: 24 ×E FINALLY GOT A Ã65 HERE IN THE ÄENVER AREA FROM ÇRAPEVINE. Á USER ON ALOCAL BOARD POSTED THAT HIS HAD COME IN LAST WEEK. ÈE WAS A LITTLE UPSETBECAUSE ÕÐÓ HAD LEFT IT OUT BACK ALONG A WALL WHERE HE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUTIT FOR SEVERAL DAYS-AND IT SNOWED DURING SOME OF THOSE DAYS! ×ATER CAMEPOURING OUT OF THE BOX WHEN HE OPENED IT, BUT THE COMPUTER APPARENTLYWASN'T AFFECTED. ÈIS INITIAL COMMENTS FOLLOW, ROUGHLY QUOTED, PARAPHRASEDMANGLED AND OTHERWISE DISTORTED! (G).ÉT HAS TWO MODES OF OPERATION, Ã64 & Ã65. ÕSE THE GO64 OR HOLD Ã= KEY DOWNTO POWERUP IN 64 MODE. (ÊUST LIKE A 128). ÄISPLAYS IN ÒÇ AND ÃOMPOSITESCREEN FOR BOTH MODES. (ÖERY SHARP Ã64 SCREEN) -É DON'T KNOW YET WHICHMONITOR HE'S USING. ÂOTH 40 & 80 COLUMN SCREENS-BOTH ALLOW SPRITES.ÔHE CARTRIDGE PORT ON THE REAR APPEARS TO HAVE SMALLER PINS THAN A Ã64-HEDOESN'T THINK A REGULAR CART WILL WORK-BUT APPARENTLY HASN'T TRIED.ÒEGULAR SIZE USER PORT. ÁLSO AN EXPANSION PORT ON THE BOTTOM "ALONG THELINES OF AN ÁMIGA".ÍÌ MONITOR IN Ã65 MODE-"SHOWS THAT YOU CAN PROGRAM FROM 0000 TO ÆÆÆÆÆÆ. ÁTTHIS TIME É DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH ÒÁÍ IS BUILT IN. ÁLLOWS USE OF ÂANK COMMAND.ÈE HAS BEEN ABLE TO RUN NUMEROUS 64 PROGRAMS ON IT. ÈIS IS A ÐÁÌ ONE, SOSOME OF THE GRAPHICS ARE MESSED UP, MAINLY DEMOS.É'M STILL WAITING FOR MINE....--ÍARKO ÍäKELä | Í ÈÕNIVERSITY OF ÈELSINKI | A EÆINLAND | R L . | K SINKI.FI | O @ . ÍARKO.ÍAKELA@ÈELSINKI.FI | . A .ÂITNET: ÍÓÍAKELA@ÆINÕÈ | ÍAKEL .